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Wed, 26 Mar 2014

Google Starbucks WiFi is strong in Granada Hills

So I'm at the Starbucks at Devonshire Street and Balboa Avenue in Granada Hills, CA, which happens to have Google (i.e. no longer AT&T) Internet service.

I'm getting 8.5 Mbps down, 1.3 Mbps up.

And there are a lot of people with laptops and tablets in here.

That's pretty solid.

If only my local Starbucks would dump AT&T for Google.

I'm not ignoring the fact that Google is able to collect a whole lot of data when you use this public WiFi. A lot of people use Google DNS ( and, which is a genius move because I always remember it), but with Google WiFi they control the whole connection.

(That begs the question of who you trust more -- Google, AT&T, Comcast, Time Warner, or another broadband provider, whoever they may be. Or nobody. The Internet is very spyish. We should all probably be using VPNs, and if I understood them more I'd go on about it. Unfortunately, from a sheer competence standpoint, Google ranks pretty highly, though that competence means any evil they are doing under their Don't Be Evil moniker stands a better chance of succeeding.)

Back to Starbucks: This Granada Hills location opens at 4:30 a.m. Monday-Saturday, 5:30 a.m. Sunday. At the risk of stating the obvious, that is mightly early.

Later at same Starbucks: The honeymoon? Over. Speed is down to 1.9 MBps down, 1.4 MBps up. There ARE a lot of people here, so the fact that it works at all should be considered a miracle.